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Sunan Ibn Majah 85 — Avoid Arguing Over Qadar

Regarding the Divine Decree (Qadr)

Hadith About Avoiding Arguments Over Divine Decree

Sunan Ibn MajahHadith Number 85

حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا دَاوُدُ بْنُ أَبِي هِنْدٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شُعَيْبٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ جَدِّهِ، قَالَ خَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ عَلَى أَصْحَابِهِ وَهُمْ يَخْتَصِمُونَ فِي الْقَدَرِ فَكَأَنَّمَا يُفْقَأُ فِي وَجْهِهِ حَبُّ الرُّمَّانِ مِنَ الْغَضَبِ فَقَالَ ‏ "‏ بِهَذَا أُمِرْتُمْ أَوْ لِهَذَا خُلِقْتُمْ تَضْرِبُونَ الْقُرْآنَ بَعْضَهُ بِبَعْضٍ ‏.‏ بِهَذَا هَلَكَتِ الأُمَمُ قَبْلَكُمْ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَقَالَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَمْرٍو مَا غَبَطْتُ نَفْسِي بِمَجْلِسٍ تَخَلَّفْتُ فِيهِ عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ مَا غَبَطْتُ نَفْسِي بِذَلِكَ الْمَجْلِسِ وَتَخَلُّفِي عَنْهُ.‏

'Amr in Shu'aib Narrated from:

'Amr in Shu'aib narrated from his father that his grandfather said: "The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) came out to his Companions when they were disputing about the Divine Decree, and it was as if pomegranate seeds had burst on his face (i.e. turned red) because of anger. He said: 'Have you been commanded to do this, or were you created for this purpose? You are using one part of the Qur'an against another part, and this is what led to the doom of the nations who came before you.'" 'Abdullah bin 'Amr said: "I was never happy to have missed a gathering with the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as I was to have missed that gathering.'"

Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 85In-book reference : Introduction, Hadith 0English translation : Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 85

Summary of Sunan Ibn Majah Hadith 85

This hadith about arguing over Qadar gives a strong warning. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم came out while some Companions were disputing about Divine Decree. The narration describes his anger, then records his correction. He asked whether they had been commanded to do this or created for this purpose. He also said they were using one part of the Qur’an against another part, and that this was what led to the doom of nations before them. The focus is not on explaining every hidden detail of Qadar. The focus is on stopping harmful argument. A believer should not use the Qur’an as a tool for quarrel. Revelation should guide the heart, not become a way to fight.

What we learn from this hadith

  • Arguing over Divine Decree can become harmful.
  • The Qur’an should not be used by setting one part against another.
  • The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم strongly disliked disputes that lead people away from guidance.
  • Some debates are better left because they do not bring a person closer to obedience.

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