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Jami at-Tirmidhi 2247 — Ibn Sa'eed Tested by the Prophet

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Hadith About the Prophet Questioning Ibn Sa'eed

Jami at-TirmidhiHadith Number 2247

حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ بْنُ وَكِيعٍ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الأَعْلَى، عَنِ الْجُرَيْرِيِّ، عَنْ أَبِي نَضْرَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي سَعِيدٍ، قَالَ لَقِيَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ابْنَ صَائِدٍ فِي بَعْضِ طُرُقِ الْمَدِينَةِ فَاحْتَبَسَهُ وَهُوَ غُلاَمٌ يَهُودِيٌّ وَلَهُ ذُؤَابَةٌ وَمَعَهُ أَبُو بَكْرٍ وَعُمَرُ فَقَالَ لَهُ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ أَتَشْهَدُ أَنْتَ أَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ آمَنْتُ بِاللَّهِ وَمَلاَئِكَتِهِ وَكُتُبِهِ وَرُسُلِهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ لَهُ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ مَا تَرَى ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَرَى عَرْشًا فَوْقَ الْمَاءِ ‏.‏ فَقَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ تَرَى عَرْشَ إِبْلِيسَ فَوْقَ الْبَحْرِ ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَمَا تَرَى ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَرَى صَادِقًا وَكَاذِبَيْنِ أَوْ صَادِقَيْنِ وَكَاذِبًا ‏.‏ قَالَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏"‏ لُبِّسَ عَلَيْهِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ فَدَعَاهُ قَالَ وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ عُمَرَ وَحُسَيْنِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ وَابْنِ عُمَرَ وَأَبِي ذَرٍّ وَابْنِ مَسْعُودٍ وَجَابِرٍ وَحَفْصَةَ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ ‏.‏

Abu Sa'eed Narrated from:

The Messenger Of Allah(S.A.W) Met Ibn Sa'Eed On One Of The Streets Of Al-Madinah, So He Stopped Him- And He Was A Jewish Boy With Locks- And Abu Bakr And 'Umar Were With Him. So The Messenger Of Allah(S.A.W) Said To Him: 'Do You Testify That I Am The Messenger Of Allah?' So He Replied: 'Do You Testify That I Am Allah'S Messenger?' So The Prophet(S.A.W) Said: 'I Believe In Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, And The Last Day.'Then The Prophet(S.A.W) Said To Him: 'What Do You See?' He Said: 'I See A Throne Above The Water.' So The Prophet(S.A.W) Said: 'He Sees The Throne Of Iblis Above The Sea.' He Said: 'What Else Do You See?' He Said: 'I See A Truthful One, And Two Liars- Or Two Truthful Ones And A Liar.' So The Prophet (S.A.W)Said:"He Has Been Confounded. So Leave Him.'"

Reference : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2247In-book reference : Book 33, Hadith 90English translation : Vol. 4, Book 7, Hadith 2247

Summary of Jami at-Tirmidhi Hadith 2247

This hadith about Ibn Sa'eed shows the Prophet meeting him in a street of Al-Madinah while Abu Bakr and Umar were with him. The Prophet asked him if he testified that he was the Messenger of Allah. Ibn Sa'eed answered in a strange way by asking the Prophet the same kind of question. The Prophet then stated belief in Allah, His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day. When asked what he saw, Ibn Sa'eed mentioned a throne above the water. The Prophet said he saw the throne of Iblis above the sea. His mixed answers led the Prophet to say that he had been confounded, so they should leave him.

What we learn from this hadith

  • The Prophet questioned Ibn Sa'eed directly.
  • The Prophet answered false or strange claims with clear belief.
  • Ibn Sa'eed’s answers were mixed and confusing.
  • The hadith teaches caution when speech is unclear and troubling.

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