1/62. Chapter:
Jami at-Tirmidhi 85 — Touching Private Part Discussion
[What Has Been Related About] Not Performing Wudu For Touching The Penis
Touching Private Part and Wudu: A Report from Talq
Jami at-Tirmidhi : 85
Jami at-TirmidhiHadith Number 85
حَدَّثَنَا هَنَّادٌ، حَدَّثَنَا مُلاَزِمُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ بَدْرٍ، عَنْ قَيْسِ بْنِ طَلْقِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ، هُوَ الْحَنَفِيُّ عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " وَهَلْ هُوَ إِلاَّ مُضْغَةٌ مِنْهُ أَوْ بَضْعَةٌ مِنْهُ " . قَالَ وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ أَبِي أُمَامَةَ . قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى وَقَدْ رُوِيَ عَنْ غَيْرِ وَاحِدٍ مِنْ أَصْحَابِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَبَعْضِ التَّابِعِينَ أَنَّهُمْ لَمْ يَرَوُا الْوُضُوءَ مِنْ مَسِّ الذَّكَرِ وَهُوَ قَوْلُ أَهْلِ الْكُوفَةِ وَابْنِ الْمُبَارَكِ . وَهَذَا الْحَدِيثُ أَحْسَنُ شَيْءٍ رُوِيَ فِي هَذَا الْبَابِ . وَقَدْ رَوَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثَ أَيُّوبُ بْنُ عُتْبَةَ وَمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَابِرٍ عَنْ قَيْسِ بْنِ طَلْقٍ عَنْ أَبِيهِ . وَقَدْ تَكَلَّمَ بَعْضُ أَهْلِ الْحَدِيثِ فِي مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ جَابِرٍ وَأَيُّوبَ بْنِ عُتْبَةَ . وَحَدِيثُ مُلاَزِمِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ بَدْرٍ أَصَحُّ وَأَحْسَنُ .
Qais bin Talq bin Ali Narrated from:
The Prophet Said: 'Is It Other Than A Piece Of His Flesh?" Or: "Part Of Him?"
Reference : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 85In-book reference : Book 1, Hadith 85English translation : Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 85
Summary of Jami at-Tirmidhi Hadith 85
This Hadith is about the discussion of touching the private part and wudu. Qais bin Talq narrates from his father that the Prophet said, 'Is it other than a piece of his flesh?' or 'part of him?' The wording gives a different angle from the reports that order wudu after touching the private part. The text itself also notes that some Companions and some later scholars did not see wudu as required from touching the male private part. So this Hadith should be explained carefully. It does not speak about desire, prayer timing, or other details. Its direct message is that the body part is described as part of the person himself. That is why it appears in the chapter on not performing wudu for touching the penis.
What we learn from this hadith
- The Hadith describes the private part as part of the person's body.
- The narration is tied to a known discussion about wudu after touch.
- The text should be read beside the wording it actually gives.
- It teaches caution in making broad claims from short reports.
